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New XFi Glenngine
Topic Started: Nov 28 2015, 04:30 PM (2,875 Views)
1DCGUY
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Don't be a "Richard"

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Dec 7 2015, 09:41 PM
I don't want to quote prices. It wasn't cheap, but it was more than reasonable. And the personal delivery and install was completely over the top above and beyond. Here's another little gem. There were several "upgrades" I declined due to cost. Glen. Did them anyway and didn't tell me. Why? Because I think he can't stand the thought of doing it the wrong way. I found out about at least one of these upgrades and insisted on paying him, because after all I was glad he did it in the end. But I'm sure there were others. And for the record, yes, it's a true XFi. This was unknown when I ordered it, even to Glenn. He was surprised but we checked the part numbers and they match. How fucking ecstatic do you think I was when I found out? I tell you, I was and am, feeling truly blessed. A video will be forthcoming, good copy on that.
I agree about the not quoting prices. ^o)

If anyone is worried about the price of a motor built by Glenn, they need to move on to a different place for a motor. B-)

If you think that motor runs great now, wait until you get 20,000 miles on it, that's when it really comes alive!! :rocker

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:cheers As requested
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Dec 11 2015, 09:56 PM

:cheers As requested
for those of us who need glasses. :P
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He said a (new block). Yeah right, :lol

Now you might find a block or some individual parts but not likely you will find any factory shortblock assemblies available. As with most cars, engines are available for a few years and after a set amount of time they cease to make available.

I think the more correct statement would be, (they did exist).

I am not going to Japan. I suppose I should have said in my statement (in the Americas).
He did not misspeak in the least when he said new block. "New" - aka previously uninstalled, factory produced, XFi short block assembly. GM p/n 91171618 (as shown on the tag): ENGINE ASM (assembly) MS (XFi), 89-94.

And a true statement would be that it does exist. Of course, if he has bought the last one available, then your assumption would be correct.... now. :lol

And it wouldn't have mattered if you did say "in the Americas," as you still would have been incorrect. He didn't even have to learn how to dial the phone in Japanese to locate it in the Americas - the North one to be more specific. :lol
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I have heard some around here refer to these as better than new. :D
Sorry, since his block assembly is new, it's is only new, not better than new. Of course John's new block assembly is statistically very unlikely to have clearances right out of the box as tight and closely controlled as a rebuild by Glenn would have, and it won't be balanced as well, but if there ever comes a day when he has that now new block assembly rebuilt by Glenn, then his clearances and balancing will be better than most new engines can ever be by design.

Factory engine = designed to allow relatively random assembly and produce clearances that will be somewhere within factory normal tolerances and balanced to a nominal degree while keeping production costs down. Some engines could end up on the tight end of those clearances, some could end up on the loose end, but statistically most should end up somewhere near the middle.

Glenngine = first very carefully and precisely measured then planned, specific part such as bearings ordered after that measuring and planning is completed, then very specific instructions provided to the machine shop in order to produce clearances using those parts as close to the tight end of factory normal specs as possible, yet still within factory normal specifications. And rod/piston/pin assemblies balanced usually to within a few tenths of a gram, which is something that also improves the operational characteristics and performance that the factory does not do.

You honestly would think that isn't such a difficult concept to understand and appreciate, but perhaps the "I truly despise anything that's repaired/rebuilt to factory specifications and industry best practices stick" that seems to be shoved so far up your butt that your eyes have bark in them is preventing you from seeing and/or acknowledging the notable difference in quality between those two processes.
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All he has to do is put the pieces together and I am sure he can do that as good as anyone can
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
You forgot he also "spitshines" them before, during, and after just "putting parts together." And one more time for good measure before wrapping them and sending them off. ;)

Maybe you honestly don't understand or appreciate the process. Or are you just that hateful of work that is done to factory standards and a higher level of professional care and due diligence than you and others choose to practice?

I think a more accurate statement would be "just putting parts together" is what you and most forum members choose to do. And, if you feel your favorite term for Glenn's work "spitshine" accurately reflects the actual level of precision, planning, professionalism, accountability and care associated with Glenn's engine work, then maybe you deserve your own "special term" to describe your preferred refresh process that includes little (or none?) of the above. How about... Let's see... :hmm Hand Job?

Regardless, just because you don't personally subscribe to the standards that goes into Glenn's engine work, it doesn't mean that the existence of a level of quality and standards for repairs and rebuild work that is higher than typically promoted on the forum isn't an excellent personal choice for those that understand, appreciate, and want it, just as a your personal choice to go as inexpensive as possible is for you.

And if you are ever interested in other facts, for instance how many more partial refreshes Glenn does each year than he does full rebuilds, or than you are likely to have done in your entire "Metro life," all you have to do is ask. The only difference is he still measures and plans to get the best outcome while providing a less inexpensive option for those who feel that is best for them at the time.

The only thing that seems fair to everyone who is researching repair/rebuild options is to objectively call a spade a spade, and not pretend that systems that aren't maintained, rebuilt, and operating as designed are magically "just as good" or somehow "better." Cheaper, yes, "just as good or better," never.
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If you think that motor runs great now, wait until you get 20,000 miles on it, that's when it really comes alive!! :rocker
I'm looking forward to the day when my still dead G10 by Glenn still with only 12,000 miles and 235+ psi compression achieved with clearances within factory tolerances that since it was rebuilt has substantially contributed to an average fuel economy of over 54 mpg in a Convertible with the original 4.39 and small diameter tires finally "comes alive." :banana

Hey John, Congrats on your choice - I'm guessing you won't be disappointed, and as 1DCGUY, Arudlang, Snowfish, Wiscometro, and many, many others on here have attested to, you will truly enjoy and appreciate your "Glenngine," aka "G10 by Glenn." :D :thumb
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I don't understand all the divisiveness on this forum sometimes. We're all on the same side guys. Go Team Metro! You all have a Merry Christmas and love your brother. Peace.
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Dec 13 2015, 02:52 PM
I don't understand all the divisiveness on this forum sometimes. We're all on the same side guys. Go Team Metro! You all have a Merry Christmas and love your brother. Peace.
I have begun to see a pattern with a few individuals... And it is not always warranted, but preconceptions and maybe past inceptions have a tendency to cloud ones perceptions of the actual written word... As someone else had pointed out... It is very hard to ascertain a persons attitude or emotion from only written text.... There is no tone in a voice and no body language to read.... Provocation is often imagined or sometimes even intentional.
Congrats on your new sparkling XFI. I'm a little jealous now since I'm stuck with 2 ea. 4 cyl. autos. I am happy however with their recent performance since I got new heads on and have done some comparison maintenance.
I'm sure that engine will likely outlast the original install... Take good care of it as I'm sure you will.
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Dec 13 2015, 02:52 PM
I don't understand all the divisiveness on this forum sometimes. We're all on the same side guys. Go Team Metro! You all have a Merry Christmas and love your brother. Peace.
It's not really divisiveness, it's just a difference of opinion. B-)

Motor on!! :nfs
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now your geo is back and rolling come out to mesa and lets do a little lunch deal or car meet up with the other guys around here.
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looks like the guy did a nice job, kinda blueprinting lite! I am all for it, just don't let Geo Jeff know!
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