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| Mitsubish Mirage; Not as well built as a Metro | |
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| ZXTjato | Dec 17 2015, 01:28 AM Post #46 |
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idk man I must be a defector like you because the car I want is way nice, Toyota 4 runner limited, 17 mpg touch screen stuff bangen stereo heated leather seats recline rear seats power every thing the WORKS I am probably the only guy on here who does not want another cheap car the metro will be the only cheap ass car I own. when I get a new car if I do its going to be a nice one. no more low ball cars.
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| Murf 59 | Dec 17 2015, 02:08 AM Post #47 |
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Not trying to side track your thread here. But while we are talking about Mitsubishi cars, I could use some info please in a PM if you can help. I am looking for info on the Mitsu Eclipse gear ratios around 1994. I know there are 4 and 5 spds in them. This one has a 1.8L engine. I used to rebuild them many years back, but have not seen one now for about 15 years. I think its the KM 200 for the 4 spd, and KM 206 for the 5 spd. PM me if you can help. Thank you for your help in advance. Murf |
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 17 2015, 04:30 AM Post #48 |
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I really do prefer sedans, so I considered a Versa. Four main things turned me off of it: 1) The manual trans was only offered with the base model. 2) I couldn't get the base model in red (for some reason). 3) I wasn't too impressed with the standard feature set on the base model (it has since improved). 4) The 30-ish mpg fuel economy rating wasn't going to work for me. Nissan sells TONS of them, so I am sure it is a decent little car for many people who aren't car enthusiasts. But the Mirage just suited my needs better. The Versa doesn't have enough horsepower to be really peppy, like the Rio, but it is too heavy and doesn't have FEW enough horsepower to be incredibly thrifty, like the Mirage. It's the worst of both worlds. FWIW, Mitsubishi will be offering a sedan version of the Mirage in late spring, called the Mirage G4. It will have the same powertrain as the hatchback. That's right, boys and girls...a three-cylinder, 5-speed SEDAN! Something Geo wouldn't give us in the 1990s!
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 17 2015, 04:40 AM Post #49 |
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Here is the interior for the current Mirage DE and Mirage ES. There is ONE knob to control the radio. Very simple, very intuitive. One reviewer of the car said, "the HVAC and radio controls on the Mirage are so simple and well laid out that a 19th-century fur trapper could easily use them." This kind of radio is going the way of the dinosaur. It is only going to be offered on the base model Mirage in '17 (due out in early '16), and come '18 all cars will be required to have a back-up camera and display screen. The radio actually just pops out of these cars. There aren't even any screws holding it in, and it is not integral with the HVAC controls. Aftermarket install kits are already available.
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| Metromightymouse | Dec 17 2015, 05:04 AM Post #50 |
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Powdercoat Wizard
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You do realize that a driver side gas cap means that you are standing on the traffic side if you ever run out of fuel on the side of the road? |
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| WiscoMetro | Dec 17 2015, 06:15 AM Post #51 |
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Seeking the Science of MPG
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Well, ..., I guess I have no rationale or reasoning for that preference. But it just seems to be to be right, so you don't need to walk around to the other side. IDK. The one time I naively ran out of gas I just pushed it half a mile down the shoulder to the gas station, and I'm not going to have that happen again... |
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| cwatkin | Dec 17 2015, 12:43 PM Post #52 |
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I see on the Versa. Sounds like it isn't the way to go. I will definitely test drive one but odds are I will have the same complaints as those here. I also didn't realize the mileage wasn't even that hot. I thought it was in the 40's but I guess not. That was an auto so maybe a manual would have been better. I don't know. Anyway, I hate how they are requiring all these new features. So 2018 model cars will ALL have a backup camera? Anyway, I might need to pick one of these up in 2017, the last of the breed. I like the simple cheap radio. Does it have an MP3/USB input or headphone input? If so I am set. I personally like the hatchback in a cheap little car like this or my Metros. I never really liked the looks of the sedan model Metros but that is just my opinion. I also know someone with a 1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse they are going to sell. It is a white non-turbo 5 speed. The rest I don't know. It hasn't been driven in a while. It has a vacuum leak and high idles so he just parked it. The engine and trans were rebuilt at some time within the past 5 years. He has all the paperwork. Let me know if you want me to get you in contact with him. Conor |
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| aaronvincent | Dec 17 2015, 03:39 PM Post #53 |
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Mr Mojo Risin'
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ZXTjato, I have studied in the ways of being cheap and driving old econo-cars and as I age and my patience continues to dwindle I yearn more and more for something with power windows and enough HP to reach highway speeds at my demand! I also like the fact that I don't feel like my car will be swept away with the breeze or I'll be killed if a ladybug crosses my path I would personally buy the new Tacoma if I had a use for it, but I live in the city so an adorable little Corolla will do just fine. No more cheap tin can cars for me, I'll keep my metro until it dies and then replace it with a new corolla. The corolla I currently have shows no signs of dying (even at 265000 miles). Literally every single piece works on it and it's a 1993 model! The reliability and absolute ease of working on it finally swayed my opinion back in April. I can remove my fuel pump through my back seat, that usually takes days in a metro but for a corolla it is a 1 hour job max. They are built better, are safer and I don't get cut off near as much. So no, no more metro pepsi can cars for me thank you. My metro love is a lifelong passion too That's how you know they are quality, it changed even my close minded self into a Toyota fanboy!I'm not hating on Metros (they were literally a lifelong passion for me) but I have a family that needs to be protected on the road.
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 18 2015, 01:14 AM Post #54 |
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I don't dislike the Versa. It just didn't work for me. But hey, it may work for you! From what I have read, yes...all 2018 models will be required to have a backup camera. Another one of those optional-until-the-government-mandates-it things, like airbags, ABS, TPMS, etc. The current Mirage has both an AUX audio input, which is the standard 3.5mm jack to the right of the display (see the pic above), and a USB input. You can just plug an MP3 player directly into the front of the stereo if you want to. The USB input is in the glovebox. It looks like your basic dongle, not too pretty. But there is a convenient clip to hold it up out of the way when you are not using it. I keep an 8GB memory stick plugged into mine, with about 900 songs on it. You can divide the songs into folders, and the name of each song, folder, etc, will appear on the display. You can even use the Bluetooth voice controls to play music off of your iPod or whatever is plugged into the USB port. Just push the button and say, "play Pearl Jam" and it will find all of the Pearl Jam songs on the USB device and play them in order. Or you can give a voice command to play a particular genre, or album. I will be honest...it's a bit slow and clunky on my car, but for some reason works much better in my girlfriend's car. Honestly, it's pretty cool...and is something I didn't expect at this price point. |
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| mt999999 | Dec 18 2015, 02:44 AM Post #55 |
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Self-Declared "Genious"
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What's wrong with the Versa? I was really impressed on my test drive. |
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| mt999999 | Dec 18 2015, 02:47 AM Post #56 |
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I test drove the 5-speed Versa sedan, and I really enjoyed it. I didn't look at the hatchback, I think modern hatchbacks are ugly. Get it before the government mandates rear view cameras in 2018!
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| mt999999 | Dec 18 2015, 02:52 AM Post #57 |
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That's what happens with CVT's. Noisy and shaky; I'll take the 5-speed option with roll up windows any day. It was smooth as butter in 5th when I test drove it on the highway. The electronic throttle and hydraulic clutch took a lot of getting used to, that's for sure! |
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| CaptainMetro | Dec 18 2015, 02:54 AM Post #58 |
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I always honk at Metros, so you may be the lucky one (if you live in SW Washington). |
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| mt999999 | Dec 18 2015, 02:59 AM Post #59 |
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Self-Declared "Genious"
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The consensus here seems to be that people don't like the cheaper style of the Versa... on a Metro forum... the irony! ![]() The cheapness and basic features were my favorite part of the car! Not to mention, a newer fairly room sedan, 5 speed, with high 30's MPG. You'll never find that (at this price point), unless you shell out a few thousand more for a Mirage (or find another NOS barn-find Metro... )
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 18 2015, 03:32 AM Post #60 |
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The Mirage really isn't 'a few thousand more'. My girlfriend's was $11,800...brand new. Deals can be had on both that make them about $12,000-ish. The factory rebate on the Mirage is $1500 right now. I don't see any rebates or factory incentives on the Versa right now. MSRP on the base Mirage is $13,800, MSRP on the base Versa is $12,800. But, IMHO, you actually get more with the Mirage (auto climate control, power windows, etc). Again, I don't dislike the Versa. Nissan sells a lot of them for a reason. But this is a forum dedicated to 20-year-old 3-cylinder economy hatchbacks...there's no reason a NEW 3-cylinder economy hatchback shouldn't raise a few eyebrows here. Did you drive the Mirage? Edit: I did a little research, and Nissan has a LOT of problems with 'piston slap' on that 1.6 motor. Edited by Cobrajet25, Dec 18 2015, 03:52 AM.
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A nightmare. Good luck finding one of those at the junkyard
the metro will be the only cheap ass car I own. when I get a new car if I do its going to be a nice one. no more low ball cars.






I would personally buy the new Tacoma if I had a use for it, but I live in the city so an adorable little Corolla will do just fine. No more cheap tin can cars for me, I'll keep my metro until it dies and then replace it with a new corolla. The corolla I currently have shows no signs of dying (even at 265000 miles). Literally every single piece works on it and it's a 1993 model! The reliability and absolute ease of working on it finally swayed my opinion back in April. I can remove my fuel pump through my back seat, that usually takes days in a metro but for a corolla it is a 1 hour job max. They are built better, are safer and I don't get cut off near as much. So no, no more metro pepsi can cars for me thank you. My metro love is a lifelong passion too
That's how you know they are quality, it changed even my close minded self into a Toyota fanboy!
I despise Chrysler with all of my being and will never again own any product manufactured by their ham-fisted engineers (from what I hear the Dart is a VERY good car but from experience I refuse to by American cars ever again). Not saying they are bad cars, just a personal vendetta against them. The Honda Civic is a decent car as well but because this is a metro forum, and you're all mostly cheap bastards/bastardettes I can see why the mirage would appeal to you all. They are decent vehicles at a decent price in a modern time.
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