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Chips in new car keys for anti-theft
Topic Started: Apr 4 2016, 09:39 PM (1,753 Views)
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The 2000 Altima I used to own had only one of these keys and replacements had to be programmed at the Nissan dealer. Now I never lost mine but I did pull out the chip and glue it close to the ignition to prevent having to spend 60$ on a replacement. any Nissan blank would then work! call me cheap!
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Metromightymouse
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Most power windows will still work when a car goes into the water, even fully submerged.
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I was taught to roll down my windows before driving on water
The State even has TV commercials telling you to do that
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mt999999
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Even if they do work under water, I wouldn't want to chance it. I much prefer manual windows. Less parts to fail too!
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Metromightymouse
Apr 10 2016, 04:58 PM
Most power windows will still work when a car goes into the water, even fully submerged.
Yeah, but I believe that's an option, one that usually only comes on most car model's "LX" option packages.

Most of your "DX" option packages, OTOH, typically only include your basic "hydraulic-assisted, jumping over traffic jambs and road obstacles, under body jumper strut thingies", along with a set of, sawmillesque, "deforestation tree-cutting blades". The robotic homing pigeon drone is a dealer-installed option.
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cwatkin


Remember that the manual windows fail more often in the Metro than the electronic ones! This is one of the few parts this way with the Metro.

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I was able to buy transponder keys on Ebay, had local locksmith cut them, and, since I already had two working transponder keys, I was able to program the new Keys myself- the keys were pretty reasonable to buy that way- and I Made 6 for a total of 8-(the max for my ecu) I too- am hard on keys.
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cwatkin


Interesting... I guess the best way to find out how this works is to post on the forum of the car in question. In this case it is the Mirage. I will post there to see if anyone has dealt with this yet.

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mt999999
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I had purchased a new HHR "chipped" key for my HHR, but never got it cut. Could it have used it in its current state, or would it have had to have been programmed to the car some how?
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I did some more looking into this. You can buy key blanks with a chip for like $10 for the Mirage. You then program the key to work with the car using your TWO existing keys. You must have TWO keys to do this!

It really sounds more like you are programming the car to recognize the key rather than the other way around which makes sense.

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Apr 5 2016, 10:51 AM
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Apr 5 2016, 12:20 AM
cwatkin
Apr 4 2016, 09:39 PM
How common is this in new cars to have a chip in addition to a mechanical key?
Been around(and a problem) in GM cars since the 90s. Not sure about other brands. You'd find it in anything above an econobox back then, now it's probably in everything.


Woodie
Apr 5 2016, 05:23 AM
cwatkin
Apr 4 2016, 09:39 PM
How common is this in new cars to have a chip in addition to a mechanical key?
It's almost unheard of for any car to have a plain old key anymore.


The new base Nissan Versa does not have a chip-key, only a plain all-metal key like our Metros. However, it doesn't have remote-unlock either. The Mirage key with the remote unlock built into the actual key is super-annoying, they could at least make them two separate pieces.

Myself, I'd much rather have the regular key. As if anyone today is smart enough to hot-wire a car, none-the-less a complicated new car. Who would want to steal the cheapest base model with a 5-speed? Heck, who would be able to drive it... :lol

Edit: The 2015 Versa that I test drove had a plain key. I can't speak for the newer models.
"Myself, I'd much rather have the regular key. As if anyone today is smart enough to hot-wire a car, none-the-less a complicated new car. Who would want to steal the cheapest base model with a 5-speed? Heck, who would be able to drive it... :lol"

The 5 speed may protect you some but the rest is a common misconception outside a really urban environment. In my home city most cars were being stolen by kids to joy ride and dump, not for parts. The easy-to-steal cars were bigger targets than the valuable cars. And nobody hot wires since the 1960's, they beak the steering column and pull a rod or break the ignition switch with a dent puller. the only thing that stopped these kids was the introduction of the chip. On the other hand a chop shops will take an expensive car with a tow truck if they cant drive it away so the only car the chip actually protects IS the cheaper car.
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