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Decided next car; Still years away though
Topic Started: May 27 2017, 06:18 PM (930 Views)
Metromightymouse
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"stock looking"
The door lock kits change nothing about how it looks if you get the right kit. The set I have in the Mouse works off of the door lock, no aftermarket switches. Unlock the door and both locks throw. Lock the door and both locks throw. Remote fob is the primary way to lock or unlock.
I do happen to have a complete door lock set for a sedan, including the wiring that isn't already in cars not equipped with power locks. It is very much hacked in by the factory. Not sure I want to sell the set though.
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Johnny Mullet
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WiscoMetro
May 27 2017, 06:18 PM
First off to repeat, I'm 100% metro for several more years. Saving for a house to move out takes precedence over a new car.

Mitsu Mirage: I admit I was impressed when I got a brief chance to drive one a little over a month ago. I tend to resist"jumping on the bandwagon" mind you.



I am still 100% Metro but to have a brand new car similar to the Metro in many ways is nice and that you can take a long road trip or emergency visit without worry and getting similar mileage is a bonus. The Mirage is better than any new car out there for Metro owners especially if you like reliability and fuel economy.
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WiscoMetro
May 28 2017, 09:53 AM
Cobrajet25, I still don't believe they get better mileage. Looking at fuelly many more Metros get over 50 mpg average than Mirages. With the 4.39 and standard cam I can easily hit mid to high 50's commuting and there's only 1 Mirage on fuelly that can compete with that.

Better make that TWO Mirages... Fuelly doesn't have all the answers. We are talking about a car that is only a bit heavier than the Metro and has a much more efficient 21st-century three cylinder engine. The Mirage doesn't do quite as well as my '91 XFi, but does beat my '97 3/5.

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Cobrajet25
May 28 2017, 06:16 PM
WiscoMetro
May 28 2017, 09:53 AM
Cobrajet25, I still don't believe they get better mileage. Looking at fuelly many more Metros get over 50 mpg average than Mirages. With the 4.39 and standard cam I can easily hit mid to high 50's commuting and there's only 1 Mirage on fuelly that can compete with that.

Better make that TWO Mirages... Fuelly doesn't have all the answers. We are talking about a car that is only a bit heavier than the Metro and has a much more efficient 21st-century three cylinder engine. The Mirage doesn't do quite as well as my '91 XFi, but does beat my '97 3/5.

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So what's your lifetime mpg average with the car?
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May 28 2017, 06:28 PM
Cobrajet25
May 28 2017, 06:16 PM
WiscoMetro
May 28 2017, 09:53 AM
Cobrajet25, I still don't believe they get better mileage. Looking at fuelly many more Metros get over 50 mpg average than Mirages. With the 4.39 and standard cam I can easily hit mid to high 50's commuting and there's only 1 Mirage on fuelly that can compete with that.

Better make that TWO Mirages... Fuelly doesn't have all the answers. We are talking about a car that is only a bit heavier than the Metro and has a much more efficient 21st-century three cylinder engine. The Mirage doesn't do quite as well as my '91 XFi, but does beat my '97 3/5.

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So what's your lifetime mpg average with the car?
About 48. :thumb Normally around 50-52 in the summer and 44-46 in the winter. Of course, that is with the AC off, but it is also all urban/suburban delivery driving. No freeway. It can hit mid-50s if I try.

They are neat cars.
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Wish I could test one out for a couple-three tankfuls of my weekly commute, just to see what kind of mileage I could or theoretically would were I to own one, average with it. If I knew, to a certainty, that I would extract 50+ mpg average with one, that would certainly help factor heavily into switching over to one, if and when the time finally comes to retire the ole Metro I refer to as my, "Commensurate Diminutive" transport.
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May 28 2017, 09:53 AM
Corolla, yes, and indeed the 2000-2002 Corolla was offered in a lighter green which I like a little more, but given the choice to buy the same car as a import or as a Chevy I'd choose Chevy.
I don't get this at all. All things being equal (and they are, identical cars built on the same assembly line in Freemont CA by the same union workers), you'd rather own a car with the nameplate of a defunct brand that GM doesn't really support instead of the largest, most admired car company in the world who supports their older cars 100%?
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Here is what I did today. This is on 68 miles of delivery over about 5 hours on fairly level ground in mostly 80-ish degree weather.

I was driving it fairly easy but wasn't hypermiling. These mpgs are pretty typical for this time of year. If you can pull these kinds of numbers out of a Metro it shouldn't be too hard for you in a Mirage.

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May 29 2017, 06:52 AM
WiscoMetro
May 28 2017, 09:53 AM
Corolla, yes, and indeed the 2000-2002 Corolla was offered in a lighter green which I like a little more, but given the choice to buy the same car as a import or as a Chevy I'd choose Chevy.
I don't get this at all. All things being equal (and they are, identical cars built on the same assembly line in Freemont CA by the same union workers), you'd rather own a car with the nameplate of a defunct brand that GM doesn't really support instead of the largest, most admired car company in the world who supports their older cars 100%?
Completely agree. All the Geo gets you is cheaper seat fabric and a Delco radio. :lol

But hey, everyone has their preferences.

BTW, the Spark is not a coupe. It's a four door hatchback with the rear door handles hidden in the C-pillars to give it the illusion of being a coupe.
Edited by Cobrajet25, May 29 2017, 07:21 AM.
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Cobrajet25
May 29 2017, 07:10 AM
Here is what I did today. This is on 68 miles of delivery over about 5 hours on fairly level ground in mostly 80-ish degree weather.

I was driving it fairly easy but wasn't hypermiling. These mpgs are pretty typical for this time of year. If you can pull these kinds of numbers out of a Metro it shouldn't be too hard for you in a Mirage.

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Well if you managed to get that, which is exactly what I've averaged with my Metro over the past 6 or so fillups, then, based on my 57 mile one way daily commute with very few stops while traveling at slow to moderate steady speeds, I could probably extract mid to upper 50's with one, I should think.
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May 29 2017, 11:52 AM
Cobrajet25
May 29 2017, 07:10 AM
Here is what I did today. This is on 68 miles of delivery over about 5 hours on fairly level ground in mostly 80-ish degree weather.

I was driving it fairly easy but wasn't hypermiling. These mpgs are pretty typical for this time of year. If you can pull these kinds of numbers out of a Metro it shouldn't be too hard for you in a Mirage.

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Well if you managed to get that, which is exactly what I've averaged with my Metro over the past 6 or so fillups, then, based on my 57 mile one way daily commute with very few stops while traveling at slow to moderate steady speeds, I could probably extract mid to upper 50's with one, I should think.
I'd agree. Probably more.
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Metromightymouse
 
I do happen to have a complete door lock set for a sedan, including the wiring that isn't already in cars not equipped with power locks. It is very much hacked in by the factory.

Hmm, well I'm used to and fine with the manual locks now. Not a big enough deal for me to install aftermarket parts, just a must have for my next car.
Johnny Mullet
 
I am still 100% Metro but to have a brand new car similar to the Metro in many ways is nice and that you can take a long road trip or emergency visit without worry

In that I guess I'm spoiled. My '95 has 95K miles and 13K on the engine. It's never let me down and I feel totally confident I can jump in it and drive it anywhere. Just a month ago I drove it 2100 miles over the course of 3 days to go to GoTG!

My '97 is mechanically totally sound as well but has quite a bit of osteoporosis.
woodie
 
I don't get this at all. All things being equal (and they are, identical cars built on the same assembly line in Freemont CA by the same union workers), you'd rather own a car with the nameplate of a defunct brand that GM doesn't really support instead of the largest, most admired car company in the world who supports their older cars 100%?

Chevy isn't a defunct GM brand :lol , I had said '00-'02 for the years. And I did say yes I'd consider a Corolla now if the case had been. But given a comparable Corolla and Prizm to buy I'd choose Chevy over Toyota. They use the same parts so a Prizm can take advantage of the Corolla parts availability.

Growing up my Parents have had 2 Cavaliers, Malibu, S10, and an Equinox. Irrational or not that's why I prefer them. My dads PT Cruiser is the only non chevy they've had since I can remember.Still I've decided that I'm not getting a Prizm anyway so I don't see how this is a big deal.
Cobrajet25
 
BTW, the Spark is not a coupe. It's a four door hatchback with the rear door handles hidden in the C-pillars to give it the illusion of being a coupe.

I knew the Spark EV had those verticle handles but somehow failed to ever notice them on the standard one's. So umm, sorry for not knowing that much about a car I'm not really interested in :dunno ?
Edited by WiscoMetro, May 29 2017, 08:50 PM.
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I made the same decision as well. The Mirage came in tops for a new car as well so that is why I got one. The huge rebate pushed me over the edge for sure in making that decision.

One other nice thing about the Mirage is that it is not direct injected so gunking up the intake valves isn't a big issue. This may result in a tad less efficiency and power but is great for simplicity. I understand this decision was made since the car is sold as a world car and this setup is more forgiving of lower quality fuel in other countries.

That is interesting about the new refrigerant. It is still a greenhouse gas but just a lot less so than what came before it.

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