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Can you help me out?; I need help with funds for a electric geo
Topic Started: Jul 13 2017, 09:10 AM (777 Views)
Rev_Weasel
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wizard93
Jul 13 2017, 08:41 PM
Rev_Weasel
Jul 13 2017, 06:37 PM
I just grabbed a random picture off the internet we have a base model but you can electrify a suburban or a hummer they are too heavy thats why they are hybrids not electric

Weight of Cadillac Escalade: 5,521 to 5,785

Weight of Hummer H3: 4,695 to 4,883 lbs

Weight of Tesla model X: 5,267 to 5,377 lbs

Somebody forgot to tell Elon Musk that electrics have a weight limit... :deal
a thing called Batteries if the Hummer was full of gas it would weigh more the Teslas weight is because of the batteries
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Split this up a bit, because it makes it easier to parse...

Rev_Weasel
Jul 13 2017, 08:37 PM
im not just using this 20k to make one car i'm making a business out of this
i get a few hundred dollar cars that have a blown engine no engine or dont run and making them electric
i'm keeping cars on the road and keeping the cost to run low
while keeping the emissions to a zero
im going to do this on multiple cars
not just ones that were a solution
i'm doing ones that have shit mpg too
i just want to start with a non running geo to see how far i can get one on one charge
because having a car that was fuel economic will help with the range of the battery
and im not just using random car batteries
im using batteries that were built for this purpose
so don't worry about me robbing people of their money
its going to good use
and if this fails completely
ill give the money back to my city
so it doesn't go to waste on my family doing random stuff
and by making these cars im already giving back to the community

Not to criticize, but 20k is approximately the budget that evmetro dumps into a single electric metro he is working on, if I recall correctly.
Claiming you are going to start an electric car business on 20k is... an admirable goal, but not really feasible.
Quality parts cost good money.
Cheaper parts break, and would drive away customers.
:dunno
Just my two cents.

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:rofl What is this thread?
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Mythstae
Jul 13 2017, 08:58 PM
Split this up a bit, because it makes it easier to parse...

Rev_Weasel
Jul 13 2017, 08:37 PM
im not just using this 20k to make one car i'm making a business out of this
i get a few hundred dollar cars that have a blown engine no engine or dont run and making them electric
i'm keeping cars on the road and keeping the cost to run low
while keeping the emissions to a zero
im going to do this on multiple cars
not just ones that were a solution
i'm doing ones that have shit mpg too
i just want to start with a non running geo to see how far i can get one on one charge
because having a car that was fuel economic will help with the range of the battery
and im not just using random car batteries
im using batteries that were built for this purpose
so don't worry about me robbing people of their money
its going to good use
and if this fails completely
ill give the money back to my city
so it doesn't go to waste on my family doing random stuff
and by making these cars im already giving back to the community

Not to criticize, but 20k is approximately the budget that evmetro dumps into a single electric metro he is working on, if I recall correctly.
Claiming you are going to start an electric car business on 20k is... an admirable goal, but not really feasible.
Quality parts cost good money.
Cheaper parts break, and would drive away customers.
:dunno
Just my two cents.

Well i have a thing on the gofundme i did a thing if you donate i can put your irl name your forum name a message you want or a meme you like for only $25 or you can get one for every $25 you donate
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Hydrojim
Jul 13 2017, 08:58 PM
:rofl What is this thread?
Just trying to get money to build a electric Geo
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Rev_Weasel
Jul 13 2017, 08:49 PM
a thing called Batteries if the Hummer was full of gas it would weigh more the Teslas weight is because of the batteries
A 6.0 Liter GM engine weighs over 500 lbs.

I assume you would be removing the gasoline engine and all associated accessories (gas tank, fuel lines, exhaust system, wiring harness, etc.) before you try to put an electric motor in it.

I figured that an EV runs on Batteries...

Even then, an electrified Hummer would weigh more than a gasoline version. But when you look at the Tesla Model X, which can also tow 5000 lbs in addition to pulling its own weight around, there's no reason you couldn't electrify an Escalade or Hummer.

Then you would be making the world "a better place".

BTW, what experience do you have in converting a vehicle to electric?
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wizard93
Jul 13 2017, 09:13 PM
Rev_Weasel
Jul 13 2017, 08:49 PM
a thing called Batteries if the Hummer was full of gas it would weigh more the Teslas weight is because of the batteries
A 6.0 Liter GM engine weighs over 500 lbs.

I assume you would be removing the gasoline engine and all associated accessories (gas tank, fuel lines, exhaust system, wiring harness, etc.) before you try to put an electric motor in it.

I figured that an EV runs on Batteries...

Even then, an electrified Hummer would weigh more than a gasoline version. But when you look at the Tesla Model X, which can also tow 5000 lbs in addition to pulling its own weight around, there's no reason you couldn't electrify an Escalade or Hummer.

Then you would be making the world "a better place".

BTW, what experience do you have in converting a vehicle to electric?
You were right about everything up there
my dad has built one before but im only 15 and this is going to be a project me and my dad are going to work so it will become my first car for next year
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if you want to donate and get something you like on the car thats not obscene go here https://www.gofundme.com/Electric-Geo
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You're only 15? :o My bad. I can understand your passion now. Sorry if I came across as a crusty old codger. Maybe because I am one. ;)

Welcome to the board.

Just be sure to keep an open mind on both sides of the gasoline/EV argument. There's a lot of decent folks on this forum with a lot of knowledge and experience. Good luck on your project and feel free to ask any questions here.

If your father has done it before, then he should be able to help out.

You should explain all of this on your fund raiser site to give people a clearer picture of what they're contributing to. That's a lot of money that anybody who considers donating to your cause will want to know exactly what they're working with.

Details, details, details! :bacondance
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actually i want to say thanks because you have been so active
i told people what i was doing i only got views and no donations so i decided to make a thing if they donate 25 dollars they get a bumper sticker with something on it and ive been posting it places
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Rev_Weasel
Jul 13 2017, 09:41 PM
actually i want to say thanks because you have been so active
That's because I'm unemployed and living with my parents. lol For real!

Had job interview today so hopefully that will all change soon.

Then I can quit terrorizing everyone on here. :evillol
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wizard93
Jul 13 2017, 09:58 PM
Rev_Weasel
Jul 13 2017, 09:41 PM
actually i want to say thanks because you have been so active
That's because I'm unemployed and living with my parents. lol For real!

Had job interview today so hopefully that will all change soon.

Then I can quit terrorizing everyone on here. :evillol
Well i hope you get employed good luck :thumb
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I commend your effort but I don't believe you will get people to just give you money. However, you can certainly work hard and earn money. At your age, I worked jobs from food service to landscaping to minor auto maintenance to pay for my projects.

If electric vehicles interest you, I'd suggest getting into a technical field. Obviously a lot of personal factors will go into your career choice but anything from automotive technician to automotive engineer could get you involved with electric vehicles. You could certainly be your own boss in those professions as well. I don't know what kind of market there is for electric conversions but there is definitely a market for engineering. I know Clemson University has a great automotive engineering program as well as any university with an FSAE team. Idk if engineering is for you but I'm sharing because that is what I have experience with.
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Another future idea for you is what my cousins kid did. He wanted to do something similar to you as in start his own business building package machines, sort of in line with what his dad did. He went to college and got a BS as a computer hardware engineer (partly because his dad and I both do industrial electrical and PLC programming), got recruited right out of college and 4 years later now is making 130k a year and doesn't even have to live in a big city. Already payed off all student load debt and has got a 50k start on saving towards funding his own business. I waited till my 30's before I really got it together with a plan, wish I would have laid out my future better when I had the chance back in high school, lol.
Point is, don't set yourself up by thinking that something like a gofundme page is going to help you. If that's really your passion to make a business out of it, while it could take you ten years to get there, using the right tactics, studying till your brain cells are raw and working your self to the limit is what really gets you where you want to go.
That's just my 2 cents (and maybe another dime added), at least you got a cool dream of playing with cars. :thumb
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I wish you good luck. Pursue your dreams. Don't take any shit from naysayers.
What year/model are you going to use? I may have a few parts I can give you when you are into your build.
Nikola Tesla had a few good ideas...
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