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| MarkZ28 | Dec 19 2017, 04:21 PM Post #16 |
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Mercedes and BMW have been using all aluminum in their cars since the 1990's with little problems. No sleeves either. The first few years BMW made the 740 with the V8, they had priblems with oil burni g a d cylinder wear. Turns out the gas in the US was so bad that it etched the aluminum alloy destroying it. They switched to a different alloy and never had that happen again, after 95. The Euro cars never had that problem, they got the better gas there. Caddy has crappy V8 also, but mainly from poor head bolt design and leaky head gaskets. Northstar is a good engine other than the gadket and bolts that fail quite often, then strio the threads out of the block when removing them. |
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| monzanut | Dec 19 2017, 04:34 PM Post #17 |
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Drip under Pressure
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My wagon and my GT were both '71 and were split bumper just like my 70 1/2" ss/rs was. My 74 Vega was the different nose, didn't really care for it as much, but better aero...body was only thing original on it, full alston 14 point cage chassis, 110" wheel base not stretched, 572 BBC and 'glide, Williams 40 spline narrowed on 32's. Thing was just plain scary. |
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| cwatkin | Dec 19 2017, 08:51 PM Post #18 |
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I always understood that the original Vega design was good but that they cheapened them. They rusted so fast that they basically dissolved in water. I have heard stories about people being in them and driving over a bump and having them break in half and be dragging down the road. Sure, that happens with Metros but after a LONG time. Then there were the engine issues. Yes, they got all this fixed and then killed the car. The Northstar wasn't the worst engine but GM seems to do better with pushrods rather than DOHC for sure. I knew someone who had one. There were 3 generations and they got better with each generation. The one I messed with was the 2nd generation. It used quite a bit of oil but my research on these indicated it wasn't a really bad thing. The valve stems and upper cylinders needed a lot of lubrication and engines that used some oil actually lasted longer. It never had any head/head gasket issues and was later sold because of computer problems and the automated controls. I understand there was a V6 variant of this engine called something else and it wasn't ever that great. I knew several people with the Chrysler 2.7 and they would chuck rods at like 50,000 miles. This was in like year 2001, not the 1970's. Conor |
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| CaptainMetro | Dec 19 2017, 09:53 PM Post #19 |
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Yeah, the 1.2 Mistu is a piece of crap! My Mirage has horrendous piston slap when its cold. I should have bought a Honda Fit, stay away from Alan Webb if you can they are nice crooks. So if you want to laugh at this Mirage defector, go ahead. I'm laughing with you. Don't worry Cobra, your piece of crap will be a rattling bucket of bolts by 40,000 miles too. Got 50 MPG? Me neither
Edited by CaptainMetro, Dec 19 2017, 09:56 PM.
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| cwatkin | Dec 19 2017, 11:16 PM Post #20 |
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I have had no issues with my Mirage so I wonder if you got a dud. You might contact Mitsubishi and see if they will do anything. I have heard they are quite good at fixing issues with these. They are no Cadillac but I find the quality of these cars excellent for as little as they cost. They take 0W20 yet I can't see any drop in the oil level between changes. Both my car and my GF's burned some oil on the first change but since then, it is always right where it was when I refilled them. Obviously the tolerances and quality control are good on these, even with their low price. The issues you describe sound more like the Nissan Versa. I have heard plenty of horror stories about piston slap, oil consumption, and them just generally pretty much starting to fall apart at 40,000 miles. I also know people who love these cars and have had no issues. I looked up the major issues with the Mirage and the biggest complaint is that the front brakes wear out quickly. I know that is an issue and since my year (2015) is the most reported, I expect to need to replace them soon. Conor |
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 20 2017, 12:37 AM Post #21 |
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Swing and a miss, buddy! Mine has over 82,000 miles on it, runs like a champ, still gets 48 mpg, and doesn't have a squeak in it. Maybe don't pretend it's a Corvette when you are driving it, eh?
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| don_dowdy | Dec 20 2017, 12:54 AM Post #22 |
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I still have a Vega engine and transmission sitting in the garage. I bought a Vega GT parts car to keep a Pontiac Astre on the road. It's long gone, but some parts are still here. This list should have also included the split port engine in the early Focus. They have a nasty habit of dropping valve seats. Which is why the Pick-n-Save has about 50 early Foci. |
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 20 2017, 03:19 AM Post #23 |
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When I was a kid, somebody living between my house and my best friend's house had a Cosworth Vega. In all the years I walked by it I never saw it move. Just one of the cars I repeatedly walked past and lusted after when I was a kid. Others included a '55-ish GMC Suburban pickup (same as a Chevy Cameo), a '56 Ford 2-door post and a loaded-to-the-gills '63 Ford Galaxie 500XL hardtop. Edited by Cobrajet25, Dec 20 2017, 03:21 AM.
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| cwatkin | Dec 20 2017, 11:06 AM Post #24 |
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I almost mentioned the ford Split Port myself. I understand this is a pretty good little engine if you have the head redone before 100,000 miles or so. It seems the last about 130,000 like clockwork but once the fail, the damage is extensive so better to be safe than sorry. I think the Chrysler 4.7L (not 2.7) was also known for dropping valve seats. I had one and it was about at the mileage this happens so sold it ASAP. Conor |
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| cwatkin | Dec 20 2017, 11:08 AM Post #25 |
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Here is more about the GM Diesel woes. http://www.autosavant.com/2009/08/11/the-cars-that-killed-gm-the-oldsmobile-diesel/ http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/automobiles/collectibles/18RUST.html Conor |
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| MarkZ28 | Dec 20 2017, 07:20 PM Post #26 |
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The 4.7 Mopar was/is a decent engine. It has a problem with blowing head gaskets if overheated. Had an 03 Durango with a 4.7, thing overheated to the point it was blowing coolant out the overflow(ex wife). Never had a problem with the whole vehicle and it wasnt treated nice before I got involved with it. The Ford 3.8 of the 80’s and maybe newer were pretty crappy and a pain to work on. |
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| CaptainMetro | Dec 20 2017, 11:56 PM Post #27 |
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I must have got a lemon
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| CaptainMetro | Dec 21 2017, 12:06 AM Post #28 |
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You've seen me driving?
Edited by CaptainMetro, Dec 21 2017, 12:07 AM.
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 21 2017, 05:23 AM Post #29 |
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Did you buy it new? Any warranty left on it? If so, make them fix it!
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| Cobrajet25 | Dec 21 2017, 05:28 AM Post #30 |
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Maybe! You are only 45 minutes away from me! I was down your way just a couple days ago, actually. I was getting a replacement driver's seat for my Mirage at what used to be I-5 Auto Wrecking in Napavine. You got yours at Alan Webb in Vancouver, right? How did they do you dirty? If you need parts for yours I-5 is the place to go. Seat was only $65. |
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