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| Propane heater for car?; heater for car interior | |
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| nerys | Dec 27 2017, 03:29 AM Post #16 |
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propane heat won't work. not easily. I had a Little Buddy indoor safe propane heater I got for my Nissan Leaf. one problem. one of the primary byproducts of propane production..... water. almost instantly fogs up all the windows. sucks hard core. unusable. the only way you might get away with it is to have the heater OUTSIDE the car heating a boiler that you run inside with a blower (just like your engine uses with coolant and the heater core) this way the water byproduct is outside not inside the car. |
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| sixtharmy | Dec 27 2017, 09:25 PM Post #17 |
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As others have noted, the "Buddy" line of infrared heaters are not catalytic heaters. According to the Propane Safety Council (I made that name up, because I can't remember the name of the actual safety group and I"m too lazy to troll through my files to find the reference) un-vented radiant propane heaters require 4 cfm of venting/fresh air per 1000 btu of output per hour to avoid hazardous levels of CO. I have a Dyna-Glo tag-a-long heater (Buddy clone) on my sailboat. I had a solar exhaust fan on the boat that moved 15 cfm. With the heater running at 4500 btu my CO alarm would start displaying a numerical CO reading after about 2.5 hrs and the alarm would sound after about 3.5 hours. I replaced the fan with one that moved 19 cfm and can now leave the heater running all day without tripping the alarm at all. When the outside temp is around freezing it will keep the inside of my 27 foot boat above 80 F. However, even though the heater has a low 02 cut-off, I still don't run it overnight. Overnight I put a little Coleman "Sport Cat" true catalytic heater by my bunk. It runs off green stove type propane bottles. It doesn't put out much heat (I think it's about 1500 btu), but that's enough to keep the condensation from freezing inside the boat and I can turn on the bigger heater a little before I get up. For a car (especially a little Metro) or your blind a Coleman "Cat" heater would probably keep you reasonably comfortable so long as you could set it so it that it pointed at you and (as Nerys noted) so long as you could tolerate the condensation. Coleman doesn't sell these anymore, but you can usually find them on Craigslist/ebay for $20-$50. |
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| Mythstae | Dec 27 2017, 10:41 PM Post #18 |
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Just pick up one of these ![]() http://rusherev.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=11 |
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| PTA2PTB | Dec 27 2017, 10:47 PM Post #19 |
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I'm totally awesome! I swear.
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..for $650? No thank you. For that kind of Yen, I can pay 3 *bald Asian men, to run around in circles inside my hunting blind, to keep me warm. *who lose 90% of their heat through their scalps* |
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| Mythstae | Dec 27 2017, 10:49 PM Post #20 |
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Aww, come on, you spoilsport, evmetro makes those! That's his store! |
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| PTA2PTB | Dec 27 2017, 11:39 PM Post #21 |
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I'm totally awesome! I swear.
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Then, you buy it! Personally, I wouldn't mind having a few, new and worthy, Chinese checkers opponents, to hone my skills on. Not to mention, a few extra sets of hands, to help me install some Feng shui-bars on my car.
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| monzanut | Dec 28 2017, 08:50 AM Post #22 |
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Drip under Pressure
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When I was living in a tent while putting my house together, this is what I used. https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/mr-heater-hunting-buddy-heater-mh12hb?cm_vc=-10005 . I put the adapter hose on it and hooked it to a 5 gallon tank. We were in the tent till end of November when snow hit. It helped, but the moisture part sucked. Had to be careful about bumping the tent or you made it rain, lol. |
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| quackquack | Dec 28 2017, 09:11 AM Post #23 |
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Read up on kerosene heaters. It will heat your blind all day on a tank of kerosene. Be careful though. They are illegal in some areas. Cops are ssetup on Craigslist here trying to ruin peoples day http://www.endtimesreport.com/kerosene_heaters.html |
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| sphenicie | Dec 28 2017, 09:31 AM Post #24 |
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What are the dimensions of your blind? What temps do you expect? Need to heat the whole blind, so ya can play cribbage in your socks? Or, maybe a battery powered heated vest? |
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| BillHoo | Dec 28 2017, 10:19 AM Post #25 |
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I thinks it's around 5 x 5 x 5 feet . I'm 5'11 and have to hunch down a little when standing. Heater vest sounds interesting. I have battery heated gloves. Just a thought as I recall being a gangly 20 year old doing radio watch in a canvass GP small tent with no heat on a night when temps dropped to 10 degrees. Someone brought me one of those propane bottle heaters and it did basically nothing for me as I recalled. Later, as I progressed in my career, I made sure to bring a luggable kerosene heater, not necessarily for myself, but for the green troops that worked for me who had the pleasure of doing radio watch on cold nights. In the last year that I did field duty, I had a coleman jet engine/bullet style heater that used propane and I also brought a car battery to run the fan in it! One of my fellow officers still recounts the story of a cold February night when we got to the field late and the officers gave up the tent for the enlisted soldiers. Our commander and CSM had a vehicle to crash in. Myself and a handful of others just had our sleeping bags and a mess shelter (hard, permanent overhead roofed structure with aluminum tables bolted to a concrete pad and no walls. He had come in soaking waet from an earlier rain and the temps were dropping into the 30s. Hypothermia was the immediate problem. He huddled in front fo the wash from the heater til his uniform dried out and we kept it running for as long as the battery lasted. Everytime I see him, he recounts how my jet engine saved his life that night! Ahh good times! But I think a small bottle heater would do just the trick for a small blind. Good times when freezing with friends. Not so good when alone in a blind waiting for something to shoot. And.....I'm gettin' old! I'll be bundled up, but want to take some of the bite out of the air inside. Water sounds like a problem for small sealed spaces. (thinking of Matt Damon in "The Martian" when he used rocket fuel to make water for his potato crop and to heat the habitat). |
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| quackquack | Dec 28 2017, 07:26 PM Post #26 |
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Awesome story. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing. |
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| Moringa | Dec 28 2017, 09:48 PM Post #27 |
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If anyone's interested, here is what we used to control the moisture. We had 2, hanging from the ceiling in a 28' travel trailer, and they did the job. You do have to replace the pellets, and I don't remember just how much dehumidifying you get per load. I would think that just one would take care of most of the sizes mentioned so far. Camping World Link Edited by Metromightymouse, Dec 29 2017, 02:22 PM.
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