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King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki-Me-O; numbers just don't add up
Topic Started: Dec 31 2017, 09:49 PM (219 Views)
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While I tend to be largely down with this narrative, the problem I seem to be currently having with it is, the part that involves the, "with his sword and his pistol, he killed all four", while, just a few stanza's prior, "Miss Mouse had suitors three or four", tends to conflict with this. So, which is it, "three", or "four"? Certainly, Mr Frog could not have dispatched with a total of four different, would-be, suitors, were their number a, mere three, to begin with, no? What am I missing here?

What do you guys think? :popcorn
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Tom

well.

he killed the first three with his sword,
still had a bullet in his pistol, must have been real bored,
his eyes locked onto Suitor four,
he got him as he stood right by the door,
King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki-Me-O.


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suzukitom
Jan 1 2018, 12:05 AM
well.

he killed the first three with his sword,
still had a bullet in his pistol, must have been real bored,
his eyes locked onto Suitor four,
he got him as he stood right by the door,
King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki-Me-O.


Assumes facts not entered into evidence.

But one plausible theory could be that, only the first three were actual suitors, while the fourth guy, was just a traveling salesman, or car-trouble-possessing joke protagonist, that happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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"Chicks dig me and guys think I'm cool."

This could be a literary use of a numerical ladder and metaphor. There is a similar use of this style in Proverbs 6:16-19, which reads;

The Lord hates six things; in fact, seven are detestable to him: (1) arrogant eyes, (2) a lying tongue, (3) hands that shed innocent blood, (4) a heart that plots wicked schemes, (5) feet eager to run to evil, (6) a lying witness who gives false testimony, (7) and one who stirs up trouble among brothers.

In this instance, the author lists seven things, but two of them are really one in the same, the 2nd (a lying tongue) and the 6th (a lying witness who gives false testimony). The 6th is an extension and broader explanation of the 2nd, in other words.

Now regarding King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki mi o, a logical understanding is that the owl, bat, and bumblebee are the three suitors, while the Frog is the fourth. So there are indeed three suitors OTHER THAN the Frog, who is the fourth.

The problem now lies in the understanding of the Frog killing all FOUR suitors. Did he also kill himself? Metaphorically, yes! Now that the threat of the other suitors is gone (all winged, flying creatures) his own murderous, killing ways are behind him. He can now put away the sword and pistol and live the life of the family man. The old Frog is dead. The new Frog is a husband and eventual father of three children.

Why three children? To replace the three suitors who were killed. Balance restored, but in a less hostile manner.

EDIT: Researching further, King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki mi o is a modern rendering of older English versions, such as "Frog went a-courtin." Other characters are introduced in the older versions, so the fourth suitor could be other than Frog.

Edited by GeoStalker, Jan 1 2018, 10:27 AM.
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Jan 1 2018, 10:19 AM
Now regarding King Kong Kitchie Kitchie Ki mi o, a logical understanding is that the owl, bat, and bumblebee are the three suitors, while the Frog is the fourth. So there are indeed three suitors OTHER THAN the Frog, who is the fourth.

Actually, I can see how the use of the word "bat", could create ambiguity, thus leading to the uncertainty of, "three or four" total suitors. If the "bat", in this narrative, is to be taken as a living, breathing, and even FLYING, mammal, then yes, I suppose it's possible it could have developed strong feelings for a lady mouse, particularly if she's cute.

But, were the word "bat" assumed to be more in the order say, a Louisville Slugger, than, fond as Miss Mouse may have been of keeping it lying in the corner of her tree holler home, with which to use in warding off the occasional, and annoying traveling salesmen with, it's unlikely that they could have kindled any type of long-term, meaningful, relationship. And procreation between them would have been out of the question.
Edited by PTA2PTB, Jan 1 2018, 08:12 PM.
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The traveling salesman had it coming; he was a speciesist, with a bumper sticker on the back of his car that read:

"Marriage is between one, of a species, and another, of the same species."
Edited by PTA2PTB, Jan 1 2018, 12:46 PM.
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I've just developed a headache after reading through all of this. I think my brain hurts too.
Oh wait, maybe it's one and the same. :lol
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Jan 1 2018, 03:27 PM
I've just developed a headache after reading through all of this. I think my brain hurts too.
Oh wait, maybe it's one and the same. :lol
It wasn't exactly Tolstoy, and it does have a rather catchy, if not a little kitchie, tune to it.
Edited by PTA2PTB, Jan 1 2018, 06:02 PM.
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